so tired of ksa anyone using crypto casinos to get around this?

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DoCoin

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honestly done with all the ksa bullshit. cant play at half the sites i want, cruks tracking everything, payment providers blocking transactions left and right
ive been seeing ads for crypto casinos like bc.game and stake that dont seem to care about nl regulations. anyone actually using these? are they legit or just scams waiting to happen?
need something with less hassle and faster withdrawals. current licensed sites take 3-5 days minimum
 
@goldkingcoiner bit overreact mate. be honest KSA system has valid points but also massive overreach. Problem gambling protection makes sense. Forcing everyone through cruks even if they've never had issues? Blocking payments to sites with proper curacao licenses? FEels like nanny state territory
 
The crypto casino situation in NL is complicated inded. On one hand you have faster withdrawals, nore payment options and bonuses, bigger gameselection and obviously no tracking BUT no protection and dispute resolution also sites disappear instantly also no self-exclusion safety net too so you're gambling twice - once on the games, once on whether they'll pay out
Anyway sites like BC.GAME or Stake operate without NL licenses with all that comes with this
 
CryptoDada said:
also sites disappear instantly also no self-exclusion safety net
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tbh i dont have gambling problems so cruks is just annoying for me. but i get why its there for people who need it
mostly frustrated with how slow everything is on licensed sites and how limited the game selection is
 
bc.game using crypto to bypass traditional payment rails that ksa can block so technically you could use it from nl payment blocking agreements target crypto on/off ramps now and mica regulations since december last year made exchanges more compliant with authorities
getting money in/out might work today but could get harder
 
Trump_Coiner said:
people who cry about scams probably violated terms or tried bonus abuse. been playing crypto for years and had 0 problems. won like 2k last month withdrw in ltc got it in 15 min
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until it isnt. crypto casinos dont have to follow any rules. theyve got your money and you have zero recourse if they decide to keep it
works fine whne small then when you hit big win suddenly verification issues or account closure
 
what actually bothers me about ksa system is the inconsistency. they license foreign operators who check boxes on paper but dont actually verify if consumer protections work. meanwhile they block sites with solid track records because wrong jurisdiction
feels more about control and tax revenue than actual player safety
 
anyone remember when they first rolled out the licensing system? was supposed to make things better but just made everything more expensive and slower. licensed sites have worse odds now cause they gotta pay for compliance costs. offshore sites can offer better value cause no regulatory overhead
 
honestly the cruks thing is biggest issue for me. if someone wants to self-exclude thats great have that option. but forcing everyone into tracking database just to gamble? privacy not alowed. crypto casinos at least dont report your activity
 
@CryptoNeed problem is gambling addicts dont self-exclude until theyve already lost everything. That's the argument for mandatory tracking so I get both sides tbh
freedom vs protection - no easy answer
 
so realistically if i use stake or bc.game whats the actual enforcement risk? everyone saying "technically illegal" but has anyone actually gotten in trouble as a player?
 
DoCoin said:
so realistically if i use stake or bc.game whats the actual enforcement risk? everyone saying "technically illegal" but has anyone actually gotten in trouble as a player?
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chill out on this one ksa enforcement targets operators not individual players. they've issued warnings to sites, blocked payments, but i haven't seen cases of players being prosecuted
that said if something goes wrong you cant exactly complain to authorities
 
payment blocking has gotten more aggressive though. saw news about ksa working with banks to stop crypto exchange transactions linked to gambling. so might work fine now but could wake up one day and find your exchange account frozen cause they detected gambling-related activity
 
been through that actually. binance flagged my account after i sent btc to stake. had to verify source of funds
so switched to using localbitcoins style p2p now. more hassle but banks cant track it
 
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